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This transcript was created with speech popularity software. Although it has been reviewed by human transcribers, it may contain errors. Please review the audio of the episode before quoting this transcript and email transcripts@nytimes. com if you have any questions.
From the New York Times, I’m Sabrina Tavernise, and this is “The Daily. “
[MUSIC IN PROGRESS]
Biden’s management said this week that he would end the COVID public health emergency, ending this pandemic bankruptcy 3 years after it began. Today, my colleague, Apoorva Mandavilli, explains what this will look like for Americans and why it doesn’t mean the end of COVID-19.
It’s Friday, February 3.
Then, Apoorva, Biden’s management announced that the public fitness emergency around COVID was ending. Can you know what that means?
So Ouais. Il almost exactly 3 years ago, when the pandemic on January 31 —
Good afternoon, everyone. I stated that the coronavirus presents a public fitness emergency in the United States.
Alex Azar, who was then secretary of fitness and human services, said we’re now in a public fitness emergency.
According to the statement, the U. S. governmentIt will implement transitory measures to develop our functions to proactively and aggressively stumble and engage the coronavirus.
And it is a popularity that the virus spreads in the country. And a public fitness emergency, which the government does from time to time, when there is one, allows the government to do many other things to deal with that specific situation.
And since January 2020, this public fitness emergency has been renewed every 90 days, but now Biden’s management says the emergency is over and all those special things we did will end on May 11.
So Biden’s management is essentially letting this physical emergency declaration expire, right?How have we noticed it playing in our daily lives?
For the average person, what it did, most importantly, was that it gave us access to loose tests, loose treatments, loose vaccines. It has allowed states, hospitals, nursing homes, and parts of the federal government to treat COVID. of doors from the same old environment. He also gave them additional money. And Medicare and the organization’s other fitness plans cover off-grid as if they were connected to the network.
Meaning?
This means you can go to any doctor and get treatment. And they will treat you for free. And the federal government has banned states from expelling Medicaid for the rest of the pandemic.
I mean, it essentially gave the federal government more strength to deal with a crisis around us, right?Reduce all friction in the formula so that we can all receive attention more easily.
Yes, and it gave a lot of money and extra strength to people, and allowed personal entities and government entities to fight the pandemic on all fronts.
And now it’s gone.
It’s not going away, but yes, some of it will disappear from May 11.
And what does Apoorva mean? Tell me that. What does it mean that he is leaving?
It’s 3 great things, really. Well, the first thing is that the healthcare formula is now going to treat COVID like any other disease, like diabetes.
So basically, this puts COVID in the category of all other fitness issues. And that’s in the category of complicated, right? This is the American fitness care system.
It’s incredibly complicated, and it will hurt your head to figure out what you’re entitled to and what you’re not entitled to. And it depends a lot on the type of insurance you have, just like everything else.
If you have personal insurance, you may not even notice the difference. So if you need to do a checkup, if you need a PCR check for COVID, you need to go to the doctor and have him prescribe the check. You can still go to the store and get an antigen test, but you may not get the 8 loose checks a month like we used to.
If you need a medicine, your doctor will need to prescribe it and your insurance company will need to cover it. If you have health insurance, you will still be able to take advantage of individual tests and treatments, but only if they are prescribed through a doctor. And you can have prices at your expense.
If you have Medicaid, testing will only be loose until mid-2024, and Medicaid could even cover drugs like Paxlovid that are under emergency use authorization, but this will depend on your condition.
But if you’re not insured, you may not be able to get vaccines, tests, and treatments as loose as you used to. You may still be able to get some through network clinics, and there are systems in place to help uninsured children. Getting what they need, however, if you don’t have insurance, you may also end up paying a lot of money out of pocket for all of this.
And what effect do you think it will have? I mean, the uninsured might not have free access to testing and treatment?
This means that far fewer people will be tested, even fewer than today. This means that many more people are likely to have health problems because they will not receive treatment. other people, who have been the most affected by the pandemic and will continue to be.
And many other people will be in that category now because, remember, the federal government allowed states to get extra money in exchange for not kicking other people out of Medicaid. Well, in December, the Congress deserves to end in April.
And so, starting in April, states will start kicking other people out of Medicaid, and everyone else will lose their insurance. And that means a lot of other people who get all those things, tests, treatments, and vaccines through Medicaid, will now lose them.
Oh, dear. So how many people, approximately, are we?
Currently, there are about 80 to 90 million other people out of that total. And there’s an estimate that says 15 million may lose it.
Wow. That’s a lot of people.
That’s a lot of other people. I mean, we already have about 30 million people in this country who don’t have insurance. And when other people start getting kicked out of Medicaid, the numbers are going to increase.
IT IS OK. So the first big effect is that if you don’t have insurance, and the number of other uninsured people is about to increase, you’ll possibly pay more for treatment. What is the big effect today?
The most important effect of the moment is that pharmaceutical corporations will now charge a maximum value for vaccines and treatments. Both Pfizer and Moderna said they would charge between $80 and $130 for a dose of vaccine. The government pays $30 per dose, and we got it for free.
Oh, dear. So it’s a massive markup.
It is a massive marking.
But I think the taxpayers themselves were the ones who paid for the progression of this, through this Warp Speed operation that took a stand in the Trump administration. Why are those publicly paid vaccines now going to make a lot of money for drug companies?
These agreements were made in the fog of war, and my conversations with the other people involved tell me that the government got no price for money. And they’ve incorporated some things that have made it very difficult for them to get corporations to do anything. This means that corporations are now loose to qualify what they need and are loose to expand what they need.
Wow. So, again, it all comes down to the market.
Exactly.
So is it fundamentally the government that recognizes that, yes, it will mean that fewer people will have access to vaccines, and that’s okay because vaccines are still as vital as before, because most people have already gotten at least a few doses??
They don’t say that. What they’re saying is that vaccines are literally important, and they’re making sure that each and every insurance, each and every type of insurance, will have to cover vaccines. So if you have insurance, you may not literally notice any difference. What’s changing is that those brands can now set value anywhere they want, just like they do for each and every other. And then your insurance company will have to negotiate with them to find out how they will cover you. .
IT IS OK. So what is the third effect?
The third big effect is anything called Title 42, which is a policy implemented through the Trump administration in March 2020. And that allowed Border Patrol agents to send back migrants crossing the border from Mexico, to send them back to Mexico. a public suitability order because of the idea that new people entering the country are increasing the risk of COVID. This is one of the tactics with which we can engage the epidemic.
Remember, in March 2020, things were pretty bad, so we were looking into everything. But what Biden’s management is saying now is that if there isn’t a public fitness emergency, then Title 42 isn’t either. Then, the name 42 will disappear.
So, Biden’s management is saying well now, we’re no longer in this public fitness emergency. We can no longer justify Title 42, the rule that allowed the United States to keep other people out because it’s a global pandemic.
Droite. Et, that means more people can now come to the border and seek to enter the United States because that rule is no longer in effect.
Okay, it turns out that with the end of the public health emergency, some things remain the same, but a lot of things change significantly, but why is President Biden doing this and why now?
Well, why is it because it’s so popular that we’re no longer in a public fitness emergency?Why now? The answer to this has a lot to do with politics.
‘Ll.
So, Apoorva, before the break, you said that the timing of the administration’s resolve to end the public health emergency is partly due to politics. What are those policies?
Well, this public health emergency is going to expire in April anyway. And the expectation, on the part of many people, that it will be allowed to end at that time, or that the Biden administration can simply extinguish it for a few more months, still in fact this year, would end. Why this week?
Thank you, Mr President. Today I will push for swift and overwhelming passage of my legislation, HR 382, End the Pandemic Act.
On Tuesday, the House passed a Pandemic is Over bill.
[LAUGHS]: He speaks frankly.
As you know, Republicans have been for many, many months now that the pandemic is over.
This week we will vote on several expenditures designed to do what all of us in America have known for some time. Americans have emerged from the pandemic. Georgians in my district returned to painting and more than two years ago.
Emergency executive governance deserves to be limited and reserved for ordinary circumstances. And this is no longer an ordinary circumstance.
And this bill was intended to end the emergency of public adequacy as soon as it was enacted.
The pandemic is over. This sends a strong and transparent message to President Biden. Other Americans are tired of living in a perpetual state of emergency, and it’s time for Congress to regain the powers granted by Article I of the Constitution.
Now, that’s probably never going to take a stand because the Senate wouldn’t pass it, yet his way of saying, we believe the pandemic is over. delay the time when it has become law.
The Biden administration has said it will give at least 60 days notice for everything to unfold, because it has put so many confusing things in position that the formula needs time to undo all those things. And that was the way the Biden administration said, we agree with you. The pandemic is over, but we will do it on our terms.
So the resolve to do it now wasn’t based just on COVID-related public fitness calculations.
Well, there’s no genuine measure of public fitness that you can base those things on, yet management has been saying for some time now that we’re not in the same state of crisis that we used to be, and the numbers show that.
We haven’t had the kind of deaths or even hospitalizations we’ve noticed in the last two winters. And we haven’t taken precautions this year. Therefore, it is a popularity of everything that management and many experts have been saying for quite some time. , and this is a new stage.
Mm-hmm.
But having said that, I want to point out that we are still seeing around 500 deaths per day.
Wow. That’s a lot.
I mean, those aren’t trivial numbers. They feel much less because they are much less than in previous years, yet it is still a fairly important point of damage that COVID is capable of inflicting. Even if most people want it, it’s over, the virus wiped us out.
Does all this replace the way we think about how we approach COVID, as individuals?What will my COVID hygiene practices be, so to speak?
How you feel about the pandemic and what you do depends on your point of threat and tolerance to the threat. If you are over 65, if you are immunocompromised, if you are pregnant, if you have a baby under one year old and need to protect yourself. That baby, the virus is still a threat.
And those other people continue to hooded themselves where they can, get their vaccine doses on time, and protect themselves in any way they can. For everyone, actually, it’s now a matter of non-public selection because the government says, it doesn’t think it’s no longer an emergency. You make the decision.
So it sounds like saying, I don’t want a reminder anymore. I mean, I’m a healthy person. I’m done with the reinforcements.
This turns out to be the case since this winter. Only about 16% of the population earned the bivalent retirement. And yet, this winter, we haven’t noticed the kind of deaths noticed in the last two winters. Even this winter, other people hospitalized are the elderly with the greatest threat of respiratory diseases. That said, the FDA has said it would like to adopt a formula where everyone gets an annual vaccine, just like we do with the flu.
So can we start treating this like it’s the flu?Is COVID the flu, basically, at this point?
No, it’s not the flu. I mean, it’s an endemic virus like the flu in the sense that we’re going to live with it forever, but we don’t know it as well as we know the flu. The flu is an old friend, an old enemy. And COVID remains a mystery to us. It is much more contagious. It is much more deadly. And we have no concept of its seasonality.
We know, for example, that each and every winter we will probably see a wave of a certain size, but we don’t know at what other time of year it may arrive. We don’t know how big it will be. We do not know how this will change, what new variant will come to meet us. There are so many unanswered things about this virus that flu is not the case.
That’s not the answer I expected. I mean, it turns out that he behaves the same way, quite a lot, right?Okay, so we don’t know what season this happens in, but it’s just that it doesn’t replace our lives and disappoints them like it used to. be.
I am hesitant to draw conclusions about what this virus is doing because it has many surprises for us. You can also propose a new variant that bypasses vaccines. Possibly we would all have to pass and receive some other reminder. I would possibly want new drugs. We are absolutely not out of the woods.
Do you think one day it will be predictable in the same way the flu or will we seriously live with this unpredictable thing forever?
This is the hope we will perceive when this virus arrives. That has been enough. We’ve only been here for 3 years. And in the last two years, we haven’t noticed any other respiratory viruses.
This year we had the RSV. We had the flu. We had COVID. We still don’t know how those viruses interact with each other, how they will affect each other’s seasonality. So, we want at least another year or a few more years to see what this virus is doing at other times of the year.
[MUSIC IN PROGRESS]
Apoorva, the last time we did an episode together, I asked you if COVID was an East Coast to West Coast road, where were we in this?And I think at that point, at one point last year, you said: somewhere in the Midwest. How far are we from San Francisco?
We are closer, but possibly San Francisco would never have been the destination. If we thought we were going to achieve herd immunity and get rid of this virus, San Francisco was never in the cards. The GPS was set to Denver. idea that we were going to San Francisco.
Hurry, thank you.
Gracias.
‘Ll.
Here’s what you know today.
This solution is not about engaging with my colleagues across the aisle. It is about maintaining a long history of anti-Semitic and anti-Israeli prejudice outside the Foreign Affairs Committee, which wants objective emissaries for our foreign policy.
On Thursday, the Republican-led House approved a solution to expel Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota from the Foreign Affairs Committee over her comments about Israel that have been condemned as anti-Semitic.
There’s a concept out there that I don’t have objective decision-making because of who I am, where I come from, and my point of view. But I reject it. We are saying that there is nothing objective in policymaking. We all inject our perspectives, perspectives, vivid reports and the voices of our constituents. That is democracy.
The measure resolved a partisan score in the House that had been simmering since 2021, when Democrats stripped Republicans of their committee appropriations in reaction to social media posts that violence opposed Democrats.
And the U. S. The U. S. has announced it will beef up its military presence in the Philippines into the largest U. S. presence in 30 years. The plan allows Washington to station military aircraft and build services in nine locations across the country. bases you already use. The deal comes as Washington tries to reassert its influence in the region and counter what it sees as Chinese aggression.
Today’s episode was produced by Michael Simon Johnson, Shannon Lin and Jessica Cheung. Edited by Lexie Diao and Paige Cowett, with assistance from MJ Davis Lin. It contains original music by Marion Lozano and Dan Powell, and designed by Chris Wood. Our theme song is through Jim Brunberg and Ben Landsverk through Wunderlich.
That’s it for “The Daily,” I’m Sabrina Tavernise.
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This transcript was created with speech popularity software. Although it has been reviewed by human transcribers, it may contain errors. Please review the audio of the episode before quoting this transcript and email transcripts@nytimes. com if you have any questions.
From the New York Times, I’m Sabrina Tavernise, and this is “The Daily. “
[MUSIC IN PROGRESS]
Biden’s management said this week that he would end the COVID public health emergency, ending this pandemic bankruptcy 3 years after it began. Today, my colleague, Apoorva Mandavilli, explains what this will look like for Americans and why it doesn’t mean the end of COVID-19.
It’s Friday, February 3.
Then, Apoorva, Biden’s management announced that the public fitness emergency around COVID was ending. Can you know what that means?
So Ouais. Il almost exactly 3 years ago, when the pandemic on January 31 —
Good afternoon, everyone. I stated that the coronavirus presents a public fitness emergency in the United States.
Alex Azar, who was then secretary of fitness and human services, said we’re now in a public fitness emergency.
According to the statement, the U. S. governmentIt will implement transitory measures to develop our functions to proactively and aggressively stumble and engage the coronavirus.
And it is a popularity that the virus spreads in the country. And a public fitness emergency, which the government does from time to time, when there is one, allows the government to do many other things to deal with that specific situation.
And since January 2020, this public fitness emergency has been renewed every 90 days, but now Biden’s management says the emergency is over and all those special things we did will end on May 11.
So Biden’s management is essentially letting this physical emergency declaration expire, right?How have we noticed it playing in our daily lives?
For the average person, what it did, most importantly, was it gave us access to loose tests, loose treatments, loose vaccines. It has allowed states, hospitals, nursing homes, and parts of the federal government to treat COVID. of doors of the same old environment. He also gave them additional money. And Medicare and other organization fitness plans cover out-of-network as if they were connected to the network.
Meaning?
This means you can go to any doctor and get treatment. And they will treat you for free. And the federal government has banned states from expelling Medicaid for the rest of the pandemic.
I mean, it essentially gave the federal government more strength to deal with a crisis around us, right?Reduce all friction in the formula so that we can all receive attention more easily.
Yes, and it gave a lot of money and extra strength to people, and allowed personal entities and government entities to fight the pandemic on all fronts.
And now it’s gone.
It’s not going away, but yes, some of it will disappear from May 11.
And what does Apoorva mean? Tell me that. What does it mean that he is leaving?
It’s 3 great things, really. Well, the first thing is that the healthcare formula is now going to treat COVID like any other disease, like diabetes.
So basically, this puts COVID in the category of all other fitness issues. And that’s in the category of complicated, right? This is the American fitness care system.
It’s incredibly complicated, and it will hurt your head to figure out what you’re entitled to and what you’re not entitled to. And it depends a lot on the type of insurance you have, just like everything else.
If you have personal insurance, you may not even notice the difference. So if you need to do a checkup, if you need a PCR check for COVID, you need to go to the doctor and have him prescribe the check. You can still go to the store and get an antigen test, but you may not get the 8 loose checks a month like we used to.
If you need a medicine, your doctor will need to prescribe it and your insurance company will need to cover it. If you have health insurance, you will still be able to take advantage of individual tests and treatments, but only if they are prescribed through a doctor. And you can have prices at your expense.
If you have Medicaid, testing will only be loose until mid-2024, and Medicaid could even cover drugs like Paxlovid that are under emergency use authorization, but this will depend on your condition.
But if you’re not insured, you may not be able to get vaccines, tests, and treatments as loose as you used to. You may still be able to get some through network clinics, and there are systems in place to help uninsured children. Getting what they need, however, if you don’t have insurance, you may also end up paying a lot of money out of pocket for all of this.
And what effect do you think it will have? I mean, the uninsured might not have free access to testing and treatment?
This means that far fewer people will be tested, even fewer than today. This means that many more people are likely to have health problems because they will not receive treatment. other people, who have been the most affected by the pandemic and will continue to be.
And many other people will be in that category now because, remember, the feds allowed states to get extra money in exchange for not kicking other people out of Medicaid?Well, in December, Congress that deserves to end in April.
And so, starting in April, states will start kicking other people out of Medicaid, and everyone else will lose their insurance. And that means a lot of other people who get all those things, tests, treatments, and vaccines through Medicaid, will now lose them.
Oh, dear. So how many people, approximately, are we?
Currently, there are about 80 to 90 million other people out of that total. And there’s an estimate that says 15 million may lose it.
Wow. That’s a lot of people.
That’s a lot of other people. I mean, we already have about 30 million people in this country who don’t have insurance. And when other people start getting kicked out of Medicaid, the numbers are going to increase.
IT IS OK. So the first big effect is that if you don’t have insurance, and the number of other uninsured people is about to increase, you’ll possibly pay more for treatment. What is the big effect today?
The most important effect of the moment is that pharmaceutical corporations will now charge a maximum value for vaccines and treatments. Both Pfizer and Moderna said they would charge between $80 and $130 for a dose of vaccine. The government pays $30 per dose, and we got it for free.
Oh, dear. So it’s a massive markup.
It is a massive marking.
But I think the taxpayers themselves were the ones who paid for the progression of this, through this Warp Speed operation that took a stand in the Trump administration. Why are those publicly paid vaccines now going to make a lot of money for drug companies?
These agreements were made in the fog of war, and my conversations with the other people involved tell me that the government got no price for money. And they’ve incorporated some things that have made it very difficult for them to get corporations to do anything. This means that corporations are now loose to qualify what they need and are loose to expand what they need.
Wow. So, again, it all comes down to the market.
Exactly.
So is it fundamentally the government that recognizes that, yes, it will mean that fewer people will have access to vaccines, and that’s okay because vaccines are still as vital as before, because most people have already gained at least a few doses??
They don’t say that. What they’re saying is that vaccines are literally important, and they’re making sure that each and every insurance, each and every type of insurance, will have to cover vaccines. So if you have insurance, you may not literally notice any difference. What’s changing is that those brands can now set value anywhere they want, just like they do for each and every other. And then your insurance company will have to negotiate with them to find out how they will cover you. .
IT IS OK. So what is the third effect?
The third big effect is anything called Title 42, which is a policy implemented through the Trump administration in March 2020. And that allowed Border Patrol agents to send back migrants crossing the border from Mexico, to send them back to Mexico. a public suitability order because of the idea that new people entering the country are increasing the risk of COVID. This is one of the tactics with which we can engage the epidemic.
Remember, in March 2020, things were pretty bad, so we were looking into everything. But what Biden’s management is saying now is that if there isn’t a public fitness emergency, then Title 42 isn’t either. Then, the name 42 will disappear.
So, Biden’s management is saying well now, we’re no longer in this public fitness emergency. We can no longer justify Title 42, the rule that allowed the United States to keep other people out because it’s a global pandemic.
Droite. Et, that means more people can now come to the border and seek to enter the United States because that rule is no longer in effect.
Okay, it turns out that with the end of the public health emergency, some things remain the same, but a lot of things change significantly, but why is President Biden doing this and why now?
Well, why is it because it’s a recognition that we’re no longer in a public fitness emergency?Why now? The answer to this has a lot to do with politics.
‘Ll.
So, Apoorva, before the break, you said that the timing of the administration’s resolve to end the public health emergency is partly due to politics. What are those policies?
Well, this public health emergency is going to expire in April anyway. And the expectation, on the part of many people, that it will be allowed to end at that time, or that the Biden administration can simply extinguish it for a few more months, still in fact this year, would end. Why this week?
Thank you, Mr President. Today I will push for swift and overwhelming passage of my legislation, HR 382, End the Pandemic Act.
On Tuesday, the House passed a Pandemic is Over bill.
[LAUGHS]: He speaks frankly.
As you know, Republicans have been for many, many months now that the pandemic is over.
This week we will be voting on various expenditures designed to do what all of us in the United States have known for some time. Americans have emerged from the pandemic. Georgians in my district returned to painting and more than two years ago.
Emergency executive governance deserves to be limited and reserved for ordinary circumstances. And this is no longer an ordinary circumstance.
And this bill was intended to end the emergency of public adequacy as soon as it was enacted.
The pandemic is over. This sends a strong and transparent message to President Biden. Other Americans are tired of living in a perpetual state of emergency, and it’s time for Congress to regain the powers granted by Article I of the Constitution.
Now, that’s probably never going to take a stand because the Senate wouldn’t pass it, yet his way of saying, we believe the pandemic is over. delay the time when it has become law.
The Biden administration has said it will give at least 60 days notice for everything to unfold, because it has put so many confusing things in position that the formula needs time to undo all those things. And that was the way the Biden administration said, we agree with you. The pandemic is over, but we will do it on our terms.
So the resolve to do it now wasn’t based just on COVID-related public fitness calculations.
Well, there’s no genuine measure of public fitness that you can base those things on, yet management has been saying for some time now that we’re not in the same state of crisis that we used to be, and the numbers show that.
We haven’t had the kind of deaths or even hospitalizations we’ve noticed in the last two winters. And we haven’t taken precautions this year. Therefore, it is a popularity of everything that management and many experts have been saying for quite some time. , and this is a new stage.
Mm-hmm.
But having said that, I want to point out that we are still seeing around 500 deaths per day.
Wow. That’s a lot.
I mean, those aren’t trivial numbers. They feel much less because they are much less than in previous years, yet it is still a fairly important point of damage that COVID is capable of inflicting. Even if most people want it, it’s over, the virus wiped us out.
Does all this replace the way we think about how we approach COVID, as individuals?What will my COVID hygiene practices be, so to speak?
How you feel about the pandemic and what you do depends on your point of threat and tolerance to the threat. If you are over 65, if you are immunocompromised, if you are pregnant, if you have a baby under one year old and need to protect yourself. That baby, the virus is still a threat.
And those other people continue to wear masks anywhere they can, get their vaccine doses on time, and protect themselves in any way they can. For everyone, actually, it’s now a matter of private selection because the government says, don’t think it’s no longer an emergency. You make the decision.
So it sounds like saying, I don’t want a reminder anymore. I mean, I’m a healthy person. I’m done with the reinforcements.
This turns out to be the case since this winter. Only about 16% of the population earned the bivalent retirement. And yet, this winter, we haven’t noticed the kind of deaths noticed in the last two winters. Even this winter, other people hospitalized are the elderly with the greatest threat of respiratory diseases. That said, the FDA has said it would like to adopt a formula where everyone gets an annual vaccine, just like we do with the flu.
So can we start treating this like it’s the flu?Is COVID the flu, basically, at this point?
No, it’s not the flu. I mean, it’s an endemic virus like the flu in the sense that we’re going to live with it forever, but we don’t know it as well as we know the flu. The flu is an old friend, an old enemy. And COVID remains a mystery to us. It is much more contagious. It is much more deadly. And we have no concept of its seasonality.
We know, for example, that each and every winter we will probably see a wave of a certain size, but we don’t know at what other time of year it may arrive. We don’t know how big it will be. We do not know how this will change, what new variant will come to meet us. There are so many unanswered things about this virus that flu is not the case.
That’s not the answer I expected. I mean, it turns out that it behaves the same way, more or less, right?Okay, so we don’t know what season this happens in, but it’s just that it doesn’t replace our lives and disappoints them like it used to. be.
I am hesitant to draw conclusions about what this virus is doing because it has many surprises for us. You can also propose a new variant that bypasses vaccines. Possibly we would all have to pass and receive some other reminder. I would possibly want new drugs. We are absolutely not out of the woods.
Do you think one day it will be predictable in the same way the flu or will we seriously live with this unpredictable thing forever?
This is the hope we will perceive when this virus arrives. That has been enough. We’ve only been here for 3 years. And in the last two years, we haven’t noticed any other respiratory viruses.
This year we had the RSV. We had the flu. We had COVID. We still don’t know how those viruses interact with each other, how they will affect each other’s seasonality. So, we want at least another year or a few more years to see what this virus is doing at other times of the year.
[MUSIC IN PROGRESS]
Apoorva, the last time we did an episode together, I asked you if COVID was an East Coast to West Coast road, where were we in this?And I think at that point, at one point last year, you said: somewhere in the Midwest. How far are we from San Francisco?
We are closer, but possibly San Francisco would never have been the destination. If we thought we were going to achieve herd immunity and get rid of this virus, San Francisco was never in the cards. The GPS was set to Denver. idea that we were going to San Francisco.
Hurry, thank you.
Gracias.
‘Ll.
Here’s what you know today.
This solution is not about engaging with my colleagues across the aisle. It is about maintaining a long history of anti-Semitic and anti-Israeli prejudice outside the Foreign Affairs Committee, which wants objective emissaries for our foreign policy.
On Thursday, the Republican-led House approved a solution to expel Rep. Ilhan Omar of Minnesota from the Foreign Affairs Committee over her comments about Israel that have been condemned as anti-Semitic.
There’s a concept out there that I don’t have objective decision-making because of who I am, where I come from, and my point of view. But I reject it. We are saying that there is nothing objective in policymaking. We all inject our perspectives, perspectives, vivid reports and the voices of our constituents. That is democracy.
The measure resolved a partisan score in the House that had been simmering since 2021, when Democrats stripped Republicans of their committee appropriations in reaction to social media posts that violence opposed Democrats.
And the U. S. The U. S. has announced it will beef up its military presence in the Philippines into the largest U. S. presence in 30 years. The plan allows Washington to station military aircraft and build services in nine locations across the country. bases you already use. The deal comes as Washington tries to reassert its influence in the region and counter what it sees as Chinese aggression.
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Biden’s management said this week that the Covid public fitness emergency would end, a sign that federal officials say the pandemic has entered a new, less severe phase.
This resolution carries symbolic weight and genuine consequences for millions of Americans.
Apoorva Mandavilli, science and fitness reporter for The New York Times.
The end of the public fitness emergency, scheduled for May, will lead to a complex set of policy adjustments and mark a new level in the government’s response to the pandemic.
Amid the effects of the change, testing and remedies will become more complicated.
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Apoorva Mandavilli contributed to the report.
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