This article was first published through North Carolina Health News on September 12, 2022 and is republished here under a Creative Commons license. Story of Anne Blythe.
North Carolina now has the updated Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccines that particularly target the Omicron BA. 4 and BA. 5 subvariants.
The U. S. Food and Drug Administrationamended emergency use authorizations for the Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccines on August 31 to include bivalent vaccines created by corporations to target Omicron subvariants, as well as the original coronavirus strain.
Wohl has a knack for breaking down medical and clinical data that can often be confusing in much less difficult to understand language. It has done so during the pandemic.
So, North Carolina Health News reached out to him for more information about the updated vaccines and where we are lately in the war against COVID-19. This is something we were told about.
This interview has been edited for its length and clarity.
David Wohl: I wear an under mask when I’m with other people and I wear an N95. Ever since Omicron started, I’ve been doing it. It’s a much more eye-catching virus, so I’m optimizing my protection.
I use an N95 when I’m in public spaces, inside and in personal outdoor spaces, my bubble. At home, of course, my wife, my children, I don’t wear a mask. We are cautious. My 80-year-old mom who comes to make a stopover with us, we check her on the porch before she enters the house, and we check ourselves because we don’t need to give her anything, without knowing it. Then we all check and then we can have dinner together when she comes every few weeks.
I have to go to Africa on Sunday. I will be carrying an N95 on the plane all the way. I will use it when I arrive and once I get to our UNC house of studies, the other five people who live there will check and we will all check in combination and create a bubble. So I don’t go to Home Depot without my N95, I don’t go to Whole Foods without my N95, I’m not in a car with other people. I don’t eat in restaurants right now.
(Wohl was scheduled to fly to West Africa several days after our interview to spend time with researchers from UNC’s Liberia Project, which studies survivors of Ebola and Lassa viral hemorrhagic fever. )
Wohl: I think we’re going to have a more moderate buildup than in past winters and I think it’s the result of thousands of other people who got BA. 5 every week in the United States and it’s like that and other people getting vaccinated. I think there’s going to be a pretty smart build on the new vaccine. When I went to CVS, they told me they were full. So I think we’re going to have a lot of immunity while BA . 5 stays around.
Wohl: I’m so excited. I’ve had reactions to all the vaccines so far, so I was very worried because I’m in the hospital treating other people and I really wanted to get vaccinated sooner and I wanted to do it as soon as possible.
In fact, I was afraid of feeling bad. I took Tylenol the day before, just before I fell asleep. I woke up in the morning, took Tylenol and felt a little, maybe tired, but then I was fine and I haven’t had any disorders since, only my arm is a little sore, but nothing more. And I got to work. Today I’m at work, fully functional. So, of all the vaccines, this was the best, and I think other people deserve to take Tylenol after getting their vaccine and the next day. To my knowledge, there is no knowledge to show that this interferes with anything.
Wohl: I think it will be every year and let me tell you why. I had to avoid going to Twitter. There are smart and bad things. Some of them are useful. Some of them tell you things, like, “Oh, I didn’t know about this article. “
But the challenge is that other people are so critical.
I understand why other people say it’s a white flag, we gave up. But when you think about it, you know that if we take it every year, it’s not like we’re protecting one hundred percent of the population. That’s not the point. It reduces risk, and it’s convenient.
It’s very difficult to get other people vaccinated every six months. We don’t know if it’s the most productive concept overall, but if it’s annual, like the flu shot, then a significant portion of the population will get vaccinated. now be older continuously. I see this as a kind of threat relief and a pragmatic way to do it. sense.
Wohl: So, I don’t think it’s defeatist at all, and I think there’s a very pragmatic technique that can be instituted like we did with the flu.
The flu vaccine is not one hundred percent effective. It particularly reduces the number of deaths, even when effective at 40%, tens of thousands of lives are stored. They just don’t know. You and I, maybe our lives were put on hold because someone got the flu shot that’s only 40% effective.
Wohl: I vaccines protect you from infection, they just don’t protect you as well as we would have liked. I also that, let’s say, the virus never mutated, the virus was the same since Wuhan and never changed. I don’t know if we still perceive whether or not the vaccine would have protected us from the infection of the original.
We don’t know to what extent, as the new variants gave the impression a few months after the vaccine’s launch. We had Alpha, and then we had Delta soon after. So I think those experts want to think about the choice situation where no new variants have come out. Would vaccines that were 95% effective still have this point of effectiveness if the virus had not changed?, for the new variants that are appearing.
What happens if BA. 5 remains? Let’s say it lasts a few months. Let’s say winter, and you have immunity BA. 5. Who’s to say it leaks?
When we communicate about leaks, we have to be careful. Are we communicating about the variant that is circulating lately?Or the variant that falls on the pike?
Wohl: Absolutely. . . The concept of Warp Speed is correct, even if we don’t like the name. We have to work at an immediate speed to do remarkable things, and in some tactics we have. Vaccines are clever evidence of this. Therapeutics, Paxlovid, remdesivir, molnupiravir, monoclonal antibodies. This is good news for us. These are very tools.
The nasal vaccine is a precedent for our government. As if it had to live up to Ukraine. Since we want to get very effective nasal vaccines, other people will like them better, even if you have to take them with a bite, it would be wonderful if we could have more wonderful coverage against infections. That’s the hole we have now. We want it. This is a top priority. They communicate about it left and right.
Wohl: So the antibodies that we make for people injected, the cells that make them are in our blood. Blood cells. . . will produce antibodies when activated through exposure to the germ. This is fine, but the germ will have to penetrate where the blood can see it.
When you perform a nasal vaccine, there are a lot of cells that live in the lining of our shiny surfaces (mucous membranes) of our frame and produce another type of antiframe. It’s called IgA, and it’s an anti-mark that’s in our secretions, it’s on our shiny surfaces, and it can be just a first line of defense if they’re already prepared and activated to attack the germ before you catch it.
That doesn’t mean all nasal vaccines are better. We know that with the flu there are nasal vaccines, but we don’t think they’re necessarily better than injectable vaccines. But in this specific virus, it would possibly be a very smart way to protect ourselves, and we did some research. I’m not saying it’s a piece of cake. I’m not saying it’s a house game. Can we find a more effective vaccine administered intranasally?It also makes it much less difficult to administer than an injection.
Wohl: I think nasal vaccines are a real promise for us. You know, it would be great to have, maybe, perimeter protection, like in the nose or throat, and nasal vaccines can do that. The other thing you can do is not target the spike protein. The spike protein changes, however, there are some preserved portions of this virus that don’t change, and we want to be able to expand the immunity that points to that, and I think that’s another thing that’s actually going to be essential. So we’re just at the beginning.
I am very excited to get a bivalent vaccine containing BA. 5 antibody-generating mRNA. And as long as BA. 5 is there, I think I’ll be pretty opposed to BA. 5.
I don’t think it’s going to leak as soon as BA. 5 is still around. But it inoculates us against diseases. The good news is that your neighbors are starting to smell. Some of your friends have colds and coughs. Some of them are in bed for a few days, 3 or 4 days, but they are not in the hospital. They do not receive oxygen, they are not on respiratory support, they are not on ECMO. And that’s because we’ve developed wonderful immunity over time thanks to the vaccines we get from serious diseases. And it’s nothing because when you have a lot of other people in the hospital, that’s when the company starts closing.
Wohl: I got the shot, my third shot, and I was in bed. I thought, as if, ‘Why am I doing this? I take the sting so I don’t have health problems, but now I’m in poor health. “But the smart news is that I was only in poor health for 24 hours, not even that, and I stepped forward temporarily and didn’t have a prolonged COVID, and I wasn’t in danger of breathing the hospital.
Sometimes what I think we feel when we catch COVID is that the virus does something to us and our bodies react in large part to prevent us from having health problems, like when we had vaccines. So, this may just be a sign that someone is the immune reaction is strong. That can be a smart thing. Maybe your immune formula has grown stronger. You had a fever. But you’re not out of breath. You didn’t have a low oxygen point because your immunity skyrocketed and you felt it.
Wohl: We are all others. We think that our immune formulas, our intestines, are monolithic, but they are as different as our faces and our bodies. So we are all very individual and our immune formula is unique to us. So, other people have other makeup. Some other people react in one way. Some other people react differently. The situations are all other. There will be other people who will be tired, some will have headaches. We don’t understand exactly why. But we know it happens.
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